Exaggerations?
direct image link |
The following comes from a slide presented by (?) at the Low Carb Down Under tour. You can click to enlarge, but here's what the slide says under the title "What changed in the 1900s?"
- Sat fat down 83%
- Veggie oil/margarine up 535%
- Sugar up 1150%
Now, no doubt there are changes in eating habits, and perhaps "down under" people changed their eating habits even more dramatically than we Americans have, or are purported to have. I've blogged many times that something's "off" with any stats indicating that Americans actually consume a low fat diet, but I'm not going to address the fat claims above. It's the sugar claim that just screams -- that can't be so?!
Here's sugar consumption in the US from this article. If we cheat downward to the two dips in the curve after that, and say we consumed 30 kg/individual in 1900 and 70 kg/individual in 2000, that comes to a 133% increase in sugar consumption in the 1900's. Let's go back to ~1850 where sugar consumption appears to tick up starting around 8 kg/individual. So from 1850 to 2000, this amounts to a 775% increase. I guess this presenter is going back to 1750 where sugar consumption appears to be about 3-4 kg/individual so we've had a horrifyingly 1650% increase in sugar consumption!! OK, if you're interested in hyperbolic statistics, there's your money game...
Now, look at the obesity curve there. Yeah, it tracks somewhat in the latter half of the 20th century with sugar consumption, and unfortunately there appear to be points missing in the mid century and data only begins in late 1800's ...still I think we can safely extrapolate those low rates back to 1850.
- 1850 - 1900
- Obesity flat around 3%
- Sugar consumption 8kg to 30 kg/individual = 275% increase
- 1900 - 1950
- Obesity 3% to 9% = 200% increase
- Sugar consumption flat, fluctuated up to 45 kg or 50% increase twice in the 50 year period.
- 1950 - 2000
- Obesity 9% to 40% = 344% increase
- Sugar consumption 30 to 70kg = 133% increase
Well, if we're going to play games with numbers like this ... I'd rather we didn't, how about you? Exaggerating to promote an agenda may work on some, but it will not go over well in the end. {EDIT: This is an odd study/graph, they use UK data - circles, and US data - diamonds, for the sugar consumption. I think this is still a useful example.}
Percent increases/decreases are the least helpful way of presenting these statistics because they are dependent on the magnitude of the starting point. Well, least helpful to the consumer of the information anyway. Case in point:
- 1850-1900 sugar consumption increased by about 22 kg/individual which amounted to 275% because consumption started at around 8% in this time frame.
- 1950-2000 sugar consumption increased by about 40 kg/individual which amounted to 133% because consumption started at around 30% in this time frame.
So the absolute increase in sugar consumption from 1950-2000 was almost double the absolute increase from 1850-1900. And yet reported as a % increase, 1950-2000 was less than half that calculated for 1850-1900. The absolute increases in sugar consumption are alarming enough in their own right and tell the better story. No smoke and mirrors of percent increases necessary.
Comments
Btw, I find myself rebelling against the rebels by defending sugar (especially PWO, though lately I've been using mostly cheese puffs or corn chips instead). But I don't actually consume that much sugar. Having three pounds of sugar per week (70kg/yr) doesn't seem possible. Is that another less-than-honest example from advocates? Did they see a range of figures for yearly consumption and choose the highest?
E.g.: http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/NutritionCenter/HealthyDietGoals/Frequently-Asked-Questions-About-Sugar_UCM_306725_Article.jsp
"A report from the 2001–04 NHANES... showed that Americans get about 22.2 teaspoons of sugar a day"
which is 85 lbs/yr, if there are 96 teaspoons in a pound.
I too find myself defending sugar. I have no dog in that fight as I consume very little myself, even in my heavier days.
Still, it's quite a stretch to immediately tie one with the other. I'd be willing to bet the increase in sedentary lifestyles will track much more consistently with obesity rate without all the exaggeration and no doubt inventive definitions of sugars and fats.
How well do these 2 subsets correspond? Isn't that the real question?
Good point about % increases. Is there a reliable difference between a 79% increase and a 179% increase in popular reporting? Should the baseline be included as the first 100% or not? There has to be a better way of putting it.
People cook less these days (indeed, many people my age couldn't make a birthday cake without a mix!) so that may very be well what skews that statistic.
I listened to jimmy moores talk online last night and it was just painful. No logical person would listen to that talk and decide low-carb/keto sounds like a positive lifestyle change, seriously. The biggest take away you could get from it was that it's possible to survive if you ever find yourself shipwrecked on an island which has nothing but coconut and avocado trees.
I believe that the original claim of 300 grams of sugar was being made in a sort of tongue in cheek fashion against that dogmatic level of low-carb perception where even whole food carbohydrate sources are looked upon as inferior 'sugar burner' food.
I followed with interest, and awe -- how many bananas for breakfast? Eight!!! Ohh my. I imagine if one added up the "sugar" in her diet for that month she was easily topping 300 g = 1200 cal as she eats a little more than twice that/day.
It's really difficult to produce fructose damage with anything resembling whole sources. Even Frasetto's paleo diet had quite a bit of OJ in the lead in period that can't be ignored given the short length of her paleo diet study. (see Is This Your Paleo Diet?, search or chrono list).
If fructose is bad b/c it's converted (mostly in excess) to sat fat, then is sat fat bad?
Imo eating too much protein is just like eating too much protein.
I couldn't believe that chocolate cake line Kade. What's even more sad was how after LC cruise 2009 and LC cruise 2010, he was questioned about trying IF and he was adamant that EVERY expert was against it on the LC cruises. Now in the talk he's mockingly saying how everyone is wrong who says that. Right or wrong, it was what HE channeled all along to his readers/listeners.
BTW, you can't get grass fed sour cream and cream cheese?
Definitely activity too. Younger people don't even know NOT having a remote control, cordless phones, cell phones, power everything standard in everything. It really does all add up!
A chocolate cake probably has more fat calories than sugar/carbs anyway so it's hardly a fair example.
Facepalm. One of the many reasons low-carb/high fat advocates are seen as such fringe lunatics. If they stopped by in Newcastle on the Australia low carb tour I probably would of went along for the comedy relief.
"The more rational explanation would be that it's the beloved heart healthy dietary fat that's being deposited on your ass. Oh no, that doesn't sound right because fat doesn't make you fat right?" - Screennamerequired
Of course. I believe that there's a post on this very blog where Evelyn talks about how--at best--carbohydrate is the vehicle while dietary fat is what primarily gets deposited into the body's adipose reserves.
As for stellar lipids. I think that particular joke's gone too far and this 'cholesterol numbers don't matter' meme has really started to mislead a lot of people who could benefit from keeping an eye on their numbers.
There are plenty of raw vegans out there eating a high fruit diet and not having outright weight issues. Although I do believe that the extreme forms of this regimen over the long term can produce other deficiencies and problems that ultimately result in some form of lowered metabolism and even shift in body composition and health. There's a whole website dedicated to 30BaD drop outs with many of them reporting problems relating to thyroid decline and other hormonal dysfunction including generally poor quality of health (skin, energy levels, etc.) over long term fruitarianism.
Also, I think it should always be stressed that on such diets, there's a considerable level of digestive burden and loss of calories through malabsorption.
None of this would be an argument against raw veganism per se, but rather, extremely limiting diets where some level of supplementation or nutrient variation might be required.
"If fructose is bad b/c it's converted (mostly in excess) to sat fat, then is sat fat bad?"
Context, right?
There's been some recent comments on this very blog from individuals who are concerned about their lipids and saturated fat intake. I think as it stands, there's a bit of a risk/gamble for using saturated fat as a primary staple in the diet.
Post a Comment
Comment Moderation is ON ... I will NOT be routinely reviewing or publishing comments at this time..