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Wednesday, December 18, 2013

Quick Survey -- For the UK folks, and others


Quick survey ... mostly for the UK folks but if you live in the US, Australia, Canada, etc. where some version of our American My Plate/Food Pyramid is recommended you can participate too (just identify please ;-) )

Your government counsels limiting fats in general and saturated fats in particular.  Can you list 3-5 foods that you would limit in order to limit sat fats?  In other words, what foods does your government suggest be limited in order to lower sat fat consumption.



Ian East said...

The national Health Service advises us to limit saturated fat; they list foods high in saturated fat as:

fatty cuts of meat

meat products, including sausages and pies

butter, ghee and lard

cheese, especially hard cheese

cream, soured cream and ice cream

some savoury snacks and chocolate confectionery

biscuits, cakes and pastries

Personally, I cut down on junk food, and that reduces junk fat. I do not go into it any deeper than that.

Lighthouse Keeper said...

In many of the northern fish and chip shops beef dripping ( tallow U.S.? ) is still used for deep frying much of it still clinging to the food upon serving. A chain of bakers called Greggs has shop it seems around every corner specialising in various cheap meat pies, cornish pasties, sausage rolls etc. The full english breakfast always includes bacon, sausages of dubious quality, eggs and often fried bread and black pudding ( congealed pig's blood with globules of fat ).
In Glasgow fish and chip shops they have been known to deep fry pizza and battered mars bars , the joke goes that the romans built Hadrian's wall to prevent the scots coming down and frying their pizzas.

H Ford said...

More detail than you asked for, sorry it's hard to choose.

France: slogan:manger bouger. It's all about balancing meals so meals have to include the right elements.

Limit: saturated fats which can be found in:
Certain oils such as palm oil.
Products of animal origin, cheese, butter, crème fraiche, fatty meat
vienoisseries(ie croissants and brioches) , patisseries, biscuits,
deep fried and bread crumbed products,
ready meals.

Lots of info about what they mean by limiting ie cheese is high in calcium so good but not
too much (ie 30g portion) or choose fromage blanc (that's made from skimmed milk) or low fat yoghurts(but check these for added sugars)
Don’t cook in fat just add a bit of butter for flavour.

You are told to check labels and avoid partially hydrogenated fats.

On the other hand you are also told that some fats may contribute to cardiovascular health : avocado,nuts, olives , oily fish, colza, olive and nut oils and some meats ( so for example locally duck seems approved of by the dietitian because high in monounsat fat' )
They mention uncooked olive, colza or nut oil daily as a seasoning on veg or salad.

markgillespie said...

Without googling to check the exact guidelines I would say in the UK we are advised to limit red meat, full fat dairy, pies/pastries, confectionery and takeaways (Indian, Chinese, pizza, KFC etc.)

George said...

In New Zealand it's butter, coconut cream, full-fat milk and red meat. Those would be the ones that most people identify as not only high SFA but "high-calorie because high-fat, 9 calories per gram don't you know".

Sanjeev Sharma said...

in Canada they don't go for the restrictive language. I don't recall now if that's always been the case - the volume of info from south of the border's so large it always gets mixed up, & since coming to grips with memory error and bias research I try to avoid putting my foot down with a "I absolutely remember THIS!!!!"

from that last page

Milk and Alternatives

Drink skim, 1% or 2% milk each day.

Have 500 mL (2 cups) of milk everyday for adequate vitamin D.

Drink fortified soy beverages if you do not drink milk.

Select lower fat milk alternatives.

Compare the Nutrition Facts table on yogurts or cheeses to make wise choices.

Learn more about milk and alternatives

Meat and Alternatives

Have meat alternatives such as beans, lentils and tofu often.

Eat at least two Food Guide Servings of fish each week. *Health Canada provides advice for limiting exposure to mercury from certain types of fish.

Choose fish such as char, herring, mackerel, salmon, sardines and trout.

Select lean meat and alternatives prepared with little or no added fat or salt.

Trim the visible fat from meats. Remove the skin from poultry.

Use cooking methods such as roasting, baking or poaching that require little or no added fat.

If you eat luncheon meats, sausages or prepackaged meats, choose those lower in salt (sodium) and fat.

Sanjeev Sharma said...

here's something to make Jimmy Moore feel @ home

Sanjeev Sharma said...

oh the memories

Lighthouse Keeper said...

Yes indeed, sausage skin is the great cocealer of the food world.Some of the cheapest sausages made from the scrapings off an abbatoir floor look just as good when cooked as the gourmet artisan offering lovingley crafted on some small holding from the remains of the family pet Gloucestershire Old Spot pig. If equine or canine content turned up in the cheaper ones it would be no surprise.

Kade Storm A.K.A. Hedonist said... <- This is more or less what continues to be recommended in the UK.

Screennamerequired said...

Generally from what I recall they reccomend reducing saturated fats and sugary sweets about equally. Saturated fats from things like butter, cream, fatty meats, pies and sausages mainly.
I'm in Australia.
I think our food plate is fairly reasonable for general across the board recommendations for our whole population. If people actually followed it...

Lighthouse Keeper said...

Sad to think that for so many that plate would induce a sense of horror and panic.

Screennamerequired said...

I hear that!
"But where is the butter food group"?
"But where is essential saturated fat recommendations for cellular membranes"?
"Look at those insulin spiking grains!, and what about the Lectins and antinutrients?"

Josh said...

Here is the 'How to reduce fat' section from an NZ govt health site:

How to reduce fat

Choose lean cuts of meat from your supermarket and butcher.
Before cooking, cut off any fat you can see from meat and chicken and remove the chicken skin after cooking.
Grill, bake, boil, steam, stir-fry or microwave your food instead of frying it.
Skim off the fat from stews and gravies.
Use only a little oil, margarine or butter for cooking and as a spread.
Choose low-fat milk, cheese, yoghurt and salad dressings.
Remove the skin from takeaway chicken and the batter from takeaway fish.
When eating out, avoid meals that are cooked in fat or have creamy sauces or rich gravies.

There is also a 'How to reduce sugar' and 'How to reduce salt' section.

There is the traditional generic drink plenty of fluids advice: "You need about 6–8 cups of water or other drinks each day to keep your body working properly."

And when it comes to dairy products apparently we need to consume "At least 2 servings every day"
Our economy health depends on it ;)

carbsane said...

Essential saturated fat for cellular membranes ... that's probably one of my favorites

Susanne said...

The UAE has not really got a coordinated diet program message, but there have been attempts recently to improve meals in schools, and to direct parents not to send particular types of foods to school with their kids. Usually "chips", "sweets", and fried foods are singled out. (most local fried food uses palm oil which is mostly saturated if I remember my fats correctly.) You also see more "official" type articles in the newspaper around Ramadan, because people tend to overindulge in celebration foods after fasting. I say "official" because there are also a lot of fad-diet-of-the-week features during the year, but for the holiday articles they always interview a hospital-based dietician. Here is one from last Ramadan:

Foods to avoid:

• Deep-fried foods such as pakoras, samosas, fried dumplings.
• High-sugar foods - gulab-jamun, rasgulla, baklava, kunafa, khatif.
• High-fat foods - parathas, curries with excess oil and flour, greasy pastries.

Better alternatives:

• Whole grains (chickpeas, plain or with potato in yoghurt).
• Milk-based sweets - rasmalai, mahalabia, kheer, custard.
• Chapattis or tandoori breads and baked pies.
• Baked, broiled, roasted or tandoori meat, fish or chicken.
• Reduce oil to minimum 3-4 teaspoons and use more onions and tomatoes or add low-fat yoghurt to bulk up the curry.


Screennamerequired said...

I tried a low fat diet once but all my cellular membranes started to collapse. And due to the lack of palmitic acid I couldn't even remember my name and date of birth when I tried to book a doctors appointment.

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