The Men Who Made Us Fat
Here's the YouTube playlist for the whole thing:
The Men Who Made Us Fat Jacques Peretti
A few questions/comments:
1. Does bread today have more sugar in it (corn syrup), than breads of yesterday? Talking hamburger buns. How or why would adding corn syrup to rolls make them last longer as Peretti claims?
2. Are soft drinks the largest single source of calories in the American diet? How do we define "source"...
3. If HFCS (55% fructose/45% glucose vs. 50-50 for sucrose) is sweeter than sugar, is it true what Lustig claims? If sweeter they should use less in substitute. Lustig claims they use more. True?
4. The Metabolic Experiment: Subject gets liquified substitutes for his normal diet in hourly portions?
I would note that Jean-Marc Schwarz has been a co-author on papers with a scientist highly cited here at the Asylum: Berkeley's Marc Hellerstein. He talks on the video of sugar being turned to fat, and yet, for example, he's a co-author on this paper. This is an overfeeding (by 50% energy intake) study showed that at 50% excess carb, DNL increased 10 fold but still amounted to <5g per day. Given the energy cost of this process, it makes the "fats don't make us fat, but turning sugar into fat does" all the more ridiculous.
5. Americans eat 90 lbs sugar a year, more than twice what's safe? This works out to about 1/4 pound per day = 4 oz = 1/2 cup sugar = 8 T = 24 teaspoons sugar per day. While this is easy if one consumes SSB's, not everyone drinks them (387 calories of sugar per day?), and I would note that a goodly percent of the obese drink diet sodas/drinks.
6. Calling all internet sleuths! Please help me out and find where fructose has been found to impair, interfere with, the secretion or action of leptin as Lustig claims. "When you overload the liver with sugars, leptin simply stops working" ~ Peretti, "Makes your brain think your starving. now what you have is a vicious cycle of consumption, disease, addiction. Which explains what has happened the world over" ~ Lustig.
7. Americans were duped into eating HFCS sodas by the evil beverage industry ... Brits were eating good old fashioned sucrose because someone invented snacking in the 70's?? In the 70's eating between meals was frowned upon? I'll let the Brits weigh in on that in your country. Not here! In grammar school we had scheduled snack time mid-morning, and whether I went home or to a friend's house after school, there was a snack to be had before heading out to play. I was a baby sitter and camp counselor and giving kids snacks was a big part of those duties.
8. Brits eat less at home or home-cooking --> caloric intake went up. Oh wait, didn't Peretti say you guys weren't eating more??
9. Snacks = sugar. OK, yeah, Doritos, chips and dips, crackers, Tostinos, etc.etc. -- lots of snacks are not sugarific.
10. Did Brits just get freezers in the late 70's??
11. And again ... the number of calories went up dramatically. They talk about pre-prepared meals but only show eating desserts. Nobody thinks cake is a meal fer cryin' out loud!
12. 1974 McDonalds lands in England. Peretti went for his 10th birthday. Shows footage of McD's, Burger King and Pizza Hut with pics of the sweet stuff. Yes, there's sweet stuff at each of these places. Moreso today than in the 70's by the way. Then they sold burgers. Yes, soda and other carbs, and some sweets like pies, shakes and ice cream, but McD's & Co. are not the conduit to sugar absent a ton of calories from fat and starch (not fructose!).
13. False choice -- what causes heart disease. Sugar OR fat. Still don't get this, the USDA pyramid NEVER gave condoned high sugar consumption.
14. What's with the creamy milky and sugary coffee footage back dropping the Yudkin stuff? The American Starbucks addiction if BOTH sugar and fat.
15. Interesting discussion of food reward. Obese woman rates high calorie foods (including pizza, burgers and cakes) more favorably than low calorie ones (broiled fish and veggies, salad).
16. Overeating is not down to greed. I very much dislike the constant equating of overeating = gluttony = moralistic definition of greed.
17. Low fat made us fat. Yeah, right. Every fattening calorific food they showed throughout Parts I-III were low fat. Ha! Report moderated fat, salt AND sugar. Only somehow the sugar lobby buried the report?! Tie it in with tobacco. Sugar barely mentioned in the final report. And yet along with added fats, there it sat atop the food pyramid for decades. And in the headline in the paper shown in the footage? See for yourself!
18. Gary Taubes is a "science historian" (not a "food historian")
19. After Gary talks about low fat junk foods, they show a picture of skim milk. I don't know how many of you remember, but non-fat dry milk powder used to be an economical source of protein long before any nutritional edicts came down. I'm as much against processed low fat crap as I am against high fat processed crap, including the processed low carb crap being pushed by Gary Taubes' pal Jimmy Moore for years now.
20. Next up Lustig who says kids won't drink low fat milk w/o chocolate. Back when I was a kid, lots of us didn't like the taste of whole milk alone ... myself included.
21. Take out the fat, but didn't care about calories. Replaced fat with ... guess what ... sugar. Earth to people with no life experience perspective on this. Chocolate whole milk and mixes to get you to drink it (Quik, Ovaltine?!) are nothing new. Oh, but the Snackwells replaced fat with sugar. Sigh. They are discussing mayo. Well, my real, full-fat, Hellman's mayo (shoot me, I've got a jar in the fridge!) lists sugar on the label, but 0g carb/serving. According to the website, Hellman's light has food starch and xanthan gum (identified as ingredients not in regular mayo) listed after oil and on down the list, and 1g carb/serving. Sugar is in there, but likely in the same proportion. But the more Taubes and Lustig repeat this lie, the more it becomes "fact" that evil food manufacturers have replaced fat with sugar and made us obese.
22. Peretti: Any potential benefit from low fat was canceled out by added sugar. (paraphrase) Sigh. Taubes: LF meant if a food didn't have fat in it, it couldn't make you fat. Yeah Gary, every diet book in the 80's listed Coke and OJ on its lists of foods to "eat without restriction" ... right? Double sigh. More on Snackwells. Yeah, what a debacle. But ANYONE who went on a diet (well except for Atkins), looked on the label for the calories. Sad to see Marion Nestle fall into this trap. Still this low fat = healthy and slimming by default doesn't sound like such an impossible trap for folks to fall for in the context of all the low carbers pushing their frankenfoods and recipes for home-made junk food.
23. Iraq war footage??
24. Marion Nestle talks food politics. Check out her blog, and I hear from a reliable source her new book is a good read: Why Calories Count: From Science to Politics
OK ... this week he goes Spurlock on us with a super-sized discussion on portion sizes.