Random Thoughts -- Drinking with Dinner?
One of the things that was an oddity about my upbringing, was that my parents always frowned on drinking with dinner. Anything even water, any meals I just chose dinner. We didn't drink with meals. Sometimes tea or water or diluted juice afterwards, and later in life this seemed to have been relaxed. But the notion as I understood it was that you weren't supposed to wash your food down.
Whenever I went to a friend's house for dinner I was always asked what I wanted to drink. Usually water or milk was offered, but occasionally soda too (that last one I think because I was a guest). I would usually just decline as I didn't really like drinking milk. To me most of their foods were more moist than I was used to anyway -- everything from salads with creamy dressing to white bread to breaded and fried fish vs. broiled.
In my binging days, I probably consumed the most milk of any time in my life. Outside the little cartons in grammar school, I've probably only truly drank a half dozen glasses of milk in my lifetime. But in the binge days, how does one inhale a box of cookies? Well, dunking in milk of course. When I had pizza or fast food out with friends, I was already at an age where for some reason I had diet soda. But one has to wonder how much more easily/faster that burger goes down the hatch when "washed" there with sips of anything in between. Binge eating was almost always accompanied by drinking something -- usually diet soda or coffee. Milk wasn't drank, it was used to soak ;-)
I wonder how much of the overeating in general these days might be due to our national infatuation with drinking something all the time, both between meals and with.
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What stands out to me though is how weird I thought it was to be invited over to "eat". We never ever did that at my house. We invited people to go swimming or to the park or to the movies occasionally but never to eat.
Their households were so different from mine in every regard. People seemed to just wander around aimlessly waiting for dinner, I wondered if something they'd usually do was prevented by my presence or if they just always spent their afternoons that way.
This is wholly speculative but I'd guess that sauces are more widely used these days. Perhaps, for some people, the food that might grow dry, cold and bulky if left on its own seems harder to resist if smothered in ketchup, dressing and hot, cheese and innumerable other kinds of sauces.
M v F gives an odd view of your country, by the way: terrible inasmuch as it implies that everyone is overweight and gluttonous but positive inasmuch as they also seem really nice. I'm aware that Americans can also be thin and/or restrained. And unpleasant!
Growing up we always had something to drink with our meals, and I was aware that some people didn't do it this way. Seemed weird to me because I always had trouble eating fast without being able to wash it down. Key phrase there--eating fast! My eating habits are always a task which needs completion as soon as I can.
This old cookbook covers EVERYTHING, and I do mean everything, to do with the purchase, storage, prep & serving of food in the context of one's entire way of life, even stressing that it's important to prepare your food with "joy" and "love", giving a fair bit of thought to meal planning & even how the food is presented - a more Japanese mindset in a way, stressing the colors, textures & of course flavors. It's totally charming & makes you realize how much we've given up with our 24/7, convenience-centric way of living today.
I did notice that cold beverages make me hungrier. Warm chamomile tea doesn't seem to affect my appetite. But green tea and cold drinks do. I love carbonated water but it makes me hungry almost instantly.
But my reaction to carbonated water is the opposite of yours. I drink it during the occasional 24 hour fast, to kill my hunger pangs, which are often simply thirst pangs. Does a really good job of it.
But then, I'm neither a zombie, nor a kitten, nor a believer that the ravings of John of Patmos were divinely inspired!
Since I don't know you, I'm not sure how to interpret this comment. One way is that you're identifying two contributors of overweight but blame only one. That's how I see those who blame just the carbs or sugar in fast food ;)
A few years back I talked to someone who had gotten advice on not drinking at all during your meals and waiting 20-30 min after before consuming liquid. The purpose was to help in digestion and maximize the nutritional value of your food. She said she lost "30lbs" in a couple of months just from that alone. Well, being a tubby I thought I would give it a try and lost zero pounds just from doing that one thing. However, I did notice that I felt better and it changed some bad eating habits, mainly taking too big a bite and wolfing down my food.
Even though the notion of not drinking while you eat will some how make a person's tummy magically shrink, I still stick to that way of eating now and feel overall better.
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