Angelo Coppola comments on LLVLC blog
If Jimmy Moore ran an open and honest ship over at his blog, I would leave a respectful (as I always did) comment there in support of the comments Angelo Coppola of Humans Are Not Broken blog (and Latest in Paleo podcast ).
I guess since he invoked his name in his 10 Critical Issues The Paleo Community Must Address* Jimmy allowed Coppola to respond in what the astute observer would recognize as a rather critical manner.
In his first response, Angelo corrected Jimmy that his blog has nothing to do with broken metabolisms and such, but then bravely went on to suggest some other things the community really needs to do. I copy the relevant excerpts here because some of these have been discussed by yours truly numerous times, however flawed the delivery may appear to some in the audience. I'll bullet point it for ease on the eyes:
Regarding the list you've compiled, I would scratch most of the items off and add a few that I view as far more important:
1) Leaders in this community not calling each other out when it is totally justified, thus avoiding much healthy debate and/or allowing sloppy thinking and ideas to persist;
2) recognizing and addressing eating disorders among those who are trying Paleo approaches;
3) recognizing the undo influence that the low-carb community has exerted on the Paleo approach. All of these occur occasionally, just not often enough.
I couldn't agree more, and good on you Angelo! The eating disorder topic has been swept under the rug, apparently for years now. There are far too many people with ED doling out dietary advice and browbeating others into following in their orthorexic footsteps in this community. Antagonism? Nothing screams antagonism louder than accusing people who nourish their body with carbohydrate-derived energy (and associated nutrients, or frankly just the "empty calories") of being addicts. T.H.I.S. M.U.S.T. S.T.O.P.
So anyway, Angelo made another comment in response to a reply by Stacy & Matt (the paleo parents, I think it was Stacy** that commented) :
Finally, you mentioned "continue to being honest, open, and respectful." What I'm seeing is that we need to *start* being more honest, open, and respectful. Honest and open: who do we *disagree* with and why? Respectful: Yes, to our readers. We owe them more than giving everyone in the community pats on the back and affiliate links.
Elsewhere in comments, others have called for better vetting of the so-called "experts" and Jimmy Moore is playing dumb. Why who could they be talking about? ***
I would still like for there to be some sort of definition of paleo. It's astounding that such a large movement can be built and grow on a concept of what is impossible to know. All of the other euphemisms except ancestral are meaningless. As is Mr. Moore calling himself paleo. The Paleoista would be horrified at his diet, one would need to skim but a smattering of her posts to reach that conclusion. But I've gone on a tangent there. Before getting to my footnotes (feel free to click the X at the horizontal line) I would like to repeat what I think was the most important statement made by Angelo Copolla:
Respectful: Yes, to our readers. We owe them more than giving everyone in the community pats on the back and affiliate links.He's made a few more comments worth a look and a scroll. Will anyone listen?
* I agree with Melissa that Jimmy's post is better described as a laundry list of things he'd like the paleo community to do to make it easier for him to scam and profit off of the label. Period. He would like nothing more than for those who point out his scamming and lying to go away.
** If by some minute chance Stacy reads this, let me first express my admiration for your courageous blogging. If you really want to get to the bottom of "WTF is wrong with you" why not visit the doctor and get some simple tests. There are very few people who are carbohydrate intolerant, if they even exist. By that I mean carbohydrate metabolism itself is difficult to irreparably break, and the very rare few with genetic disorders in this metabolic pathway do not fare well from birth. Diabetes is not even a disease of carbohydrate intolerance it is one of insulin dysregulation and/or deficiency. Find out if you are secreting insulin properly in response to carbs and work from there. Same with auto-immune issues, gut health, etc. Seek information at least through personal evaluation by a doctor, not random blog posts by Wheat Belly, Robb Wolf, etc.
*** If the upcoming guest hosting of The Livin' La Vida Low Carb Show by Stefani Ruper (Feb. 11) doesn't epitomize what is wrong here, I don't know what does. Jimmy having her as a guest host when she's (a) not a low carber, (b) never defined her paleo diet, (c) claimed that going paleo made matters worse, (d) hasn't cured her own PCOS, and (e) has lied about and inflated her credentials. And then there's Stefani going on LLVLC Show given that (a) it lends whatever credibility her appearance can to the "damaged goods" that is JimKKKins Moore, (b) speaking of Kimkins is the podcast of a man who scammed lots of women with a starvation diet. Ahh well ... gotta love this pair ;-)