Jimmy Moore, PSS
In recent comments here, someone hit the nail on the head about Jimmy Moore. He's become a professional sympathy seeker, PSS. This is evident in his latest
whine blog post: Aren’t You Going To Respond To The Negative Attacks Against You?
Jimmy posts some screenshots of comments made about him and says this:
I guess these people have an expectation that if they write a comment like this on my blog, Facebook wall or Twitter page, at a YouTube video, on my forum or elsewhere online that I have a duty to publish it. I do not. I tend to agree with the famous blogger Tim Ferriss from “The Four-Hour Workweek” blog and his doctrine of it being okay to disagree with the ideas I share on my blog. But once you cross the line into personal attacks against me or others, there is no expectation that your comment will ever see the light of day. DELETE! I’m more than happy to entertain lively debate and discussion of the topics I blog about (that’s what a blog is for, right?). But if you decide to write some of the kind of stuff I shared above, it’s a guaranteed way your comments will never be approved.
This is laughable as the first comment of mine I recall him censoring was calling him out for saying something like he'll listen to what I have to say when I come out and stop using my idiotic moniker (this was back when I was still anonymous). Jimmy gives the impression that his critics, and he's said that this blog is dedicated to exposing his fraud, are trying to post obnoxious comments and that's what he censors. I've never tried to post an obnoxious comment on any of Jimmy's blog and I have screenshots somewhere of the few comments that have been censored. But this man is dishonest about comments on his blog because several have mentioned having their comments censored, and those weren't derogatory. Jimmy has for about a year now been moderating comments that simply point out the problem he is having is related to how MUCH he eats. Period. And I think this is truly precious coming from a man who published Jeff Volek's attack on Paul Jaminet calling him a nut job, routinely pokes fun of overweight people who are not LLVLC, and calls scientists and such idiots on a regular basis.
I have no problem blocking these kind of unproductive, demeaning comments from ever seeing the light of day. If you can’t be positive or at the very least show common decency in a public forum, then you don’t deserve to be heard. It’s pretty easy to disagree without being disagreeable and at the same time be encouraging even in the midst of criticism. Some people have yet to master this fine art of comment decorum.
Yes, Jimmy, we're well aware that if someone doesn't contribute to the community in a way you deem fit you have no use for them. But please, sir, it's bad enough you play your Christian card to avoid criticism, please don't lecture folks on the fine art of comment decorum when you let stand a whole bunch of vitriol against me on your blog. You only care that it's not you or one of your friends that's being criticized. But eh, that's not what prompted this post. Before the above quotes he posted a series of screenshots -- unattributed -- of supposed comments purported to have been made on HIS blog/Twitter/forum/etc. Well, that's a LIE. One of them, the longest one, was a comment made on this blog by Kurt Harris.
That post was Response to Moore/Kosloff Podcast II: Commentary . How funny that Adam Kosloff drops by in the comments to commiserate with poor Jimmy after misrepresenting our email exchange in his podcast. I'm still waiting for any sort of followup from Adam as promised here on March 25. But back to the point at hand. First of all, I don't see anything about Kurt's comment that doesn't meet with the "fine art of comment decorum" here or elsewhere. Secondly, how dare Jimmy use that comment, from this blog, to imply that it is an example of nastiness on one of his venues. He goes on:
These sample comments I shared above are only a few of the ones I’ve received just over the past week.
No Jimmy you're lying to your readers. You did not receive that comment, I did. And you did not receive it just over the past week, I received it over a month ago. So you wouldn't have had the option to delete it. But thank you for sharing it with your audience, perhaps it will wake up a few of your followers to what you're all about. I realize desperate times call for desperate measures, but there's a saying about holes and shovels that you might want to give serious consideration to. Criticism of a 300 lb man singing the glories of his diet is in no way out of bounds. Why not just use current pictures on your sites Jimmy? Why does Twitter still say just "Lost 180 pounds on Atkins, eat low-carb paleo, working through metabolic derangement, educating through my Livin' La Vida Low-Carb blog/podcasts" sporting a caricature avatar that bears little resemblance to you? And criticism of Amy Dungan is justified on the same count because she has weighed more for most of the past decade than she did prior to going low carb. That is a fact and the criticism is more than fair. For the record, I believe Jimmy did not attribute the comments to those who wrote them to deliberately imply that they came from folks like me. Sleazy cheezy.
I've been meaning to mention this for a while now (and perhaps I have, I've typed it out before just not sure it was published in the final version of a blog post) because this is not the first time Jimmy has complained about all of this supposed animosity and nastiness in his venues. He is a hypocrit on that note and nothing demonstrates that better than how he runs his own forum. Forget that he let stand posts accusing me of being an addict (for consuming fructose in any way, shape or form) or calling me a lunatic when I suggested NEFA stimulate insulin release. No, I'm talking about his use of Razwell to take a poke at Anthony Colpo. When we're talking decorum I cannot think of a more vile troll that I've ever encountered than Razwell who authored quite a number of vulgar misogynist posts about yours truly before his blog was removed for violating just about every Blogger rule. I'm not new to being on the receiving end of Razwell who abused the PM function at the LLVLC forum back in 2009 to send vulgar misogynistic messages to me. In addition to rants on the public board against Colpo and others that were let stand, Jimmy rightly banned him (but did not remove all content) for this behavior. Since there are actually very few folks banned on the forum (I can only think of one before Razzy got the boot, ZC'er Charles Washington) Jimmy should have some recollection of the circumstances of the banning. He certainly is aware of who Razwell is and his disgusting rants. So anyway, after exploiting his embryo adoption saga (I can't think of any other word for it) to whatever end motivated putting the last episode up to Christine letting out a wail when informed she'd lost the baby(ies) on YouTube, Jimmy publicly took a much needed break from blogging/etc. to grieve the loss. He broke his silence twice (perhaps more, I didn't do Twitter at all at the time). Once understandably to post links to podcasts with AHS11 speakers, but the second time just blew my mind.
"Jane Santos" writes:
Hi, Jimmy. It's Razwell. Something happened to my account since my last visit.
I just want to tell you that I have your back on this. As you can see . The dimwitted Anthony Colpo is hurling the insults on his site. Anthony Colpo is a fraud and a shady, shady guy. He is grossly misinformed about obesity. Obesity is almost as heritable as height, surpassing all other conditions but height alone . And possibly equalling it. The greatest quality peer reviewed science from Dr. Jeffery Friedman and Dr. Stunkard demonstrate this .
Anthony Colpo has proven he thinks lowly of obese people and does not treat them with the same respect ANYONE deserves. See Urgelt's of YouTube obesity video. ....
There's more to the rant, but you note Razzie identified himself. But he calls AC "dimwitted" -- is that the "fine art" of decorum Jimmy's hailing? Even had he not been banned before, that post should have been removed. But if one is serious about why they banned someone, he should have removed it and banned the new identity. But no ... instead Jimmy comes out of his grieving period respite to post on his forum (something he didn't used to do much for a very long time other than announcements for podcasts and blogposts) and replies:
Jimmy Moore, clean up your own act before trying to psychoanalyze your critics. It's sickening. Someone going by Hold the Hoax on Jimmy's forum posted this in response to his blog:Colpo became irrelevant a long time ago.
In all honesty it's hard to feel very sorry for you, Jimmy. First of all, you don't distinguish between the two (as I see it) distinct types of criticism of you: (1) the mean, nasty, ad hominem attacks, which I think we can ALL agree have no place in civil discourse, and (2) the thoughtful, considered opinions of those who - rightly or wrongly - feel you attempted to co-opt a movement (paleo) near and dear to their hearts (I mean, seriously, Jimmy…paleo? Do you even believe in evolution?). If I had to guess, I'd say that's where some of the visceral dislike comes from: the recognition of some fairly blatant hypocrisy. And, to those who've read you for some time, this is nothing especially new - from the KimKins fiasco (where you stubbornly dug in before issuing a mea culpa) to the altering of reader comments to your present blacklisting of polite, respectful contrarian voices from your blog. I find it frankly incomprehensible that you refuse to draw distinctions between legitimate and illegitimate criticism - and very clever, as well, as evidenced by your slipping Dr. Kurt Harris' comment from CarbSane's blog in among all those slightly less elevated comments from garden-variety trolls. There is a difference, Jimmy, and I think you realize that. And speaking of CarbSane, it's REALLY hard to feel bad for you on that point - because you CREATED her! Before your podcast, nobody much knew - or cared - about the anonymous, bunny-eared blogger attacking Gary Taubes. But, for whatever reason - controversy to generate page views and bring in readers/listeners, whatever - she was given a national audience, and we all know what happened next. Anyway, I'm sure this comment will be gone even before I can click "Post Reply", but I feel it is important that your readers know that not all criticism of the almighty LLVLC webpire is created equal. And why am I even reduced to posting on a forum of which I am admittedly not even an active part? Easy - because I've been banned by the head champion of free speech and open debate himself: Jimmy Moore.Well said, and thanks, whoever you are. You know, you're right. In many ways Jimmy Moore did create me. The podcast basically doubled my regular traffic and it stayed that way, but the next big bump in my traffic was my LC Morphing to HAES series and the like. Jimmy coordinated with Taubes on that podcast deal and took pot shots at my character in Gary's "response". Jimmy didn't care that people were trashing me for who I was and my anonymity and couldn't care less to respond to the science. Jimmy wanted to take me out and he probably figured the little boost the podcast might give me would wane as folks wouldn't stick around. And he was counting on his and Gary's fans to shout me down and he didn't care if some of the crap that was flung hurt me. He was wrong, and the interest in the HAES series and posts exposing low carb FRAUDS is always stronger (page hit wise) than the science posts. That's not why I write them though. I write them because if a blogger with a "voice" learns of something that is wrong, I believe not sharing that with others would be wrong. That I try and inject a little humor with the drinks, Lego characters, etc., is as much for my own entertainment as it is for my amazing audience. That they are almost always hits tells me that there are people out there who want to know this stuff and are glad I'm putting it out there. Exposing fraud and quackery IS productive Jimmy. Read it and weep.